SuperDan!
Dan Sheehan shows incredible rugby intelligence to get the British and Irish Lions back in the game early in the 2nd Test versus the Australian Wallabies.
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I think that the other camera angle has showed something that not many people have questions but caused me concern, which is that Sheehan doesn’t just dive, he is actually thrown over the tackle by Itoje behind him, and I think if we start to allow players to be thrown then we could get to some very dangerous territory for the health of the game and players (from a lions fan)
You should not be able to jump over tackling players that are positioned in front of you. World Rugby needs to pull their finger out and make the laws clearer. Smart play by Sheehan though
For my money if he'd increased his height off the ground ie. He actually jumped then sure that's illegal. But he basically dove directly forward and the Australian tacklers slipped under him, because they were quite reasonably expecting him to dive for the ground. So it's a bit contentious but honestly can't see that he's done anything wrong.
Smart play Dan.
Clever play. Should be banned going forward though
Not correctly given there was slight elevation to get over the defenders which isn't allowed
His dive was incredibly dangerous. The guy he jumped over would have been a tetraplegic if he had lifted his head just a little.
"Kept her body height"?
Law 9.11 Players must not do anything that is reckless or dangerous to others including leading with the elbow or forearm, or jumping into, or over, a tackler.
World rugby have ruled on this. We have see multiple wingers diving over would be tacklers to score tries. It's legal .
Bad sportsmanship, bad refereeing imo. There’s no jumping or diving over tacklers on the goal line like American football in rugby. This was no dive over the line in the act of scoring the try. This was scoring a try by diving over the top of the Australian tacklers in a typical goal line driving situation. He lured them in by going low earlier, showing it was premeditated. Guy should be sent off for being a pillock
Sheehan one of the best hookers in the world at the moment.
Ok, but the first part of the clip is a penalty. Taking the free kick ahead of the mark. Whistle – Free Kick Gold.
Has anyone mentioned that he moved the ball one foot in front of the 5 metre line? Aren’t all penalties put back to that point?
World player of the year, a hooker with a wingers try scoring ratio
I never knew how transferable Michelle Obama's statement of "when they go low, you go high" was. But there you go. I'm always learning.
He was not jumping into contact. The space was there, tacklers went low, he stayed upright, the space appeared above he tacklers.
I agree but that same unavoidable head contact evaluation could also be applied to just about any of the 5m tap and go penalties so the rules for that whole attacking area near the line needs looking at tbh.
Even in this vid, take a look at Dan's pick and go penalties before the one he scores off of. He basically drops down head first to the ground into an incoming tackle that's coming at him just as low. If the ref was to adhere to current rugby rules, the Australian players making head contact should have been carded which is also totally unfair when the attacking player has practically put his head so low, grass level, that it's unavoidable other than to just let him tap and score a cheap try by doing that.
I think it's pretty clear that he didn't jump a tackle. If you watch some American footballers, they full-on hurdle the attempted tackle sometimes and that is what that rule is about. I would assume that it's considered dangerous as your feet could be taken out from under you and you land on your head. In this case, he was 3 feet off the ground at most, so hardly a jump.
No it's not legal
It’s definitely a penalty.
You can’t jump or dive to avoid a tackle and there are about 3 players he did avoided by jumping. Amazingly bad decision and I’m not Australian.
Sounds like rules are up for interpretation as it suits the results you want. I mean jumping is illegal in open play – but it’s fine if you score a try.
Having said that, he gets the chocolates – so brilliant move.
Yee Ole QB sneak
So there’s two things here that I think relate to this incident. First is law 9.11: “Players must not do anything that is reckless or dangerous to others including leading with the elbow or forearm, or jumping into, or over, a tackler.”
Second is an official law clarification re law 9.11 that world rugby released in 2022 after New Zealand Rugby requested a clarification when a Chiefs player was disallowed a try after hurdling a player at the try line.
“A ball carrier may dive with the ball in order to score a try, and we all agree that should be allowed. From an equity perspective, if they do so, a defender may attempt to make a safe and legal tackle on that player. As we have said above, jumping to avoid a tackle should be regarded as dangerous play and should be sanctioned accordingly, even if no contact is made… If there is any element of dangerous play, in line with the above ruling, then a try cannot be the reward.”
With this in mind, I’m not sure how this is a try? I think that there’s been a misinterpretation made here that because you are diving for the tryline law 9.11 is null, but per the law clarification it’s actually you are allowed to drive for the tryline UNLESS you have conducted dangerous play (ie law 9.11) in order to do so. Thoughts?
If this starts a trend of players diving to score, it will become outlawed as its near on impossible to stop without making contact with the head. If it’s a one off, it will remain brilliant, quick thinking.
Isn’t going directly to ground illegal?
There was no attempt to tackle they dive shoulder first to the ground, the Australians may as well not have been there
So you can dive over players for a try, as often seen in the corner from wingers, but the safety is not really an issue in the corner as they are right next to the touch line and can be tackled side-on out of bounds. But when in the middle of the field, how are you supposed to safely tackle or stop the player who is diving head first? It feels like the wallabies were in a lose-lose scenario, can someone explain it better to me?
If I wanted to watch NFL I would hit the remote.
Yeh I noticed it too, he had basically teed them up to think he'd do it again (go to ground) but that final time he didn't soooo clever. Also, the commentator is spot on there, a couple of the Aussie defenders literally had their knee on the ground prior to contact ( in other words "went straight to ground"), which when the opponent is in the act of scoring a try, it could be argued, that warranted a penalty try. But let's not quibble. It was very intelligent play by DS.
Totally legal. If not every diving try in the corner which is standard practice, would be illegal.
Yes it’s legal.
The laws are clear that you can dive in the act of scoring.
(You cannot jump out of a tackle in open play though)
What a try ,man is already an amazing rugby player
Sheehan or the coaches either way its the first review I have seen where they highlight how low he went just minutes before, selling the dummy/expectations
The Aussie commentators said it was legal, which kinda seals it.
Legal? Debatable. Dangerous? Yes.
You may dive into the in goal area. Simple as that.
Perfectly good try.
I actually find it slightly embarrassing that professional players don’t understand the laws of the game. If you’re not allowed to dive to score a try, the majority or touch line tries would be disallowed.
If he gets tackled in the air when diving to score then what?
It’s already been confirmed as not legal. You cannot jump over a defender and this is very different to diving for a score.
Very clever but should have been disallowed.
Tom curry, player of the tournament